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The Gondry Moment

I don't want to mix my current work with my blog, but in this case I'll make an exception. I recently wrote the production notes for Michel Gondry's "The Science of Sleep," which opens soon.

If you're reading this, you either know who Gondry is or have seen his work, including his film "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind," and his rock videos for Bjork, The White Stripes, and others.

I met with Gondry for an hour. Since then, I haven't been able to stop thinking about our conversation.

It's no surprise that the main topic of our discussion was dreams. "The Science of Sleep" is about a boyish man (played by Gael Garcia Bernal) who yo-yos between dreams and reality. And Gondry has often said that he gets his ideas from his dreams.

But I was fascinated to learn more about Gondry's idiosyncratic approach to interpreting dreams.

When you wake up from a dream, you can write it down and look it up in a dream interpretation book. (Who writes these books?) If you are a Freudian you can use his symbolic language; if you're a religious person, you can make connections to the Bible or the Koran, etc.; you can also search for connections in Greek mythology, world literature, or "Lost." But you're always interpreting your dreams according to some kind of belief system that's outside yourself.

Gondry doesn't see why everyone can't have their own mythology. He believes you can find the secrets of your dream life by exploring your memory. For example, if you have a dream about a snake, why is the only interpretation the obvious Freudian interpretation? In this case, he suggests you search for the answer in all your memories of snakes, not in communal symbols. More to the point, by probing your mental landscape, he believes you can find out who you are. (You can see Bernal's character explore his head all through "The Science of Sleep.")

One dream that regularly turns up in Gondry's work is some kind of "misplacement": the bed on the beach in "Eternal Sunshine...," the bathtub in the office in "The Science of Sleep." He did a whole Beck video, "Deadweight," based entirely on this concept--things turning up in places where they don't belong.

Gondry thinks our brains are normally in a passive state, where everything makes sense. But when we see something that's incongruous, we have to work to reconstruct it. As it isn't something normally see, you question your reality. And he call this "a very creative moment."

Hallucinatory images like this are familiar from surrealist paintings, David Lynch movies, etc., but I've always thought of them in terms of the artist's creativity-not our creativity. The notion intrigued me and got me thinking--and not just about dreamlike images.

I remember when I started listening to post-folkie Dylan songs: "Your dancing child with his Chinese Suit...He spoke to me I took his flute..." The unexpected clang of that kind of language woke me up;. it wasn't the kind of lyric I was used to hearing. I had to confront it somehow. In Gondry's words, it was "a very creative moment" for me.

We are all familiar with the notion that certain kinds of films or art demand more of an audience, but all too often there's snobbism mixed in with that. You can experience The Gondry Moment in the last part of Kiarostami's "Taste of Cherry," but it can also happen for you in "Oldboy," or "Little Miss Sunshine." It just has to be abruptly dissonant--not necessarily "difficult."

This splash of ice-water can happen in art, advertising, and in our daily lives. It's a "creative moment" for all of us, when our synapses misfire. Perhaps that's one of the things we hope for when we go to the movies: something mysterious that eludes our everyday perceptions.

Submitted by   September 15, 2006 - 2:22am
By Josh Boelter (not verified) on September 16, 2006 - 7:17pm

I don't try to analyze my dreams but I often use excerpts from unusual dreams when I'm writing fiction, whether it's a short story or screenplay. I'm really looking forward to this film.

By Todd Howard (not verified) on September 19, 2006 - 3:53pm

I'm delighted to read this post, because I have always felt this way about dreams in general and about my own dreams, specifically. In fact, on and off for the past 20 years (currently off) I have kept a dream journal. Actually forced myself to reach for the notebook on the night stand and grab the pen - sometimes even in the dark and make notes about my dreams. For a couple years in the early 90's, I even employed the use of a mini-cassette recorder, and "spoke about the dream" and recorded it for later review. I always made sure not to censor myself, so that I could actually capture everything I could remember about the dream.

Why do I do this? Sometimes for creative ideas (particularly musical ideas... as a songwriter, I have had dozens of dreams over the years where I have been playing a song in the dream on guitar or piano or something, and in the dream it's a song that I "wrote" and when I wake up, I've had occasion to get the idea down in it's raw form and then later on, turn it into a full "real" song) and sometimes for "solving the mysteries of my own life" - or unlocking my own personal Mythology as Gondry put it. I believe that all the Truth (with a capitol T) that one ever needs to "find" is inside oneself, and I think dreams are one of the *only* access points where our normal common sense, our beliefs about reality, our hang-ups, our normal roadblocks don't *necessarily* hold sway... and therefore offer a totally unique perspective - and yet are still 100% our own.

The fact that writers, psychologists, psychiatrists, etc., over the years have tried to sometimes get people to "interpret dreams" in some uniform way, has always been a ridiculous notion to me. "You dreamed about water, and water is sexual" or something... hogwash. It *might* be sexual, but it also might be musical for another person, or spiritual for yet another, or culinary for some other person. I do believe that we all hold our OWN set of keys - as unique as we are as individuals - to unlocking our own life.

This parlays very naturally for me into the creative arts. Music, filmmaking, storytelling... it's all based on some aspect of my own life experiences, so why not look to my dream life as a potential source for ideas... it's more interesting to me than anything I read in the newspaper headlines anyway.

Thanks for posting your thoughts about your discussion with Gondry, I loved hearing this... and now I *REALLY* can't wait to see Science of Sleep. It opens at my local cinema shortly.

Maybe it's time to go back "ON" with the dream journal for me.... Hmm.

Thanks,
Todd Howard
Musician, Filmmaker,
Magnet Media Instructor

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